#102 Beauty Beyond the Surface | Uncovering the Holistic Approach of Plastic Surgeon Dr. Anthony Youn

Nov 22, 2021 | BEAUTY, The Gabby Reece Show

Episode #102: Dr. Anthony Youn – America’s Holistic Plastic Surgeon

My guest today is Dr. Anthony Youn, known as “America’s Holistic Plastic Surgeon”. I love when there is a paradox for good. Dr. Youn is a member of the American Society of Plastic Surgeons and wants to deal with the whole body, not just your neck or breasts.

We talk about things that we can do to look better, support skin health, and really understand what it takes when approaching the serious decision of getting a procedure. Dr. Youn is not opposed to surgery but is passionate about sharing as much information about all of the options we have as patients to look our best. I appreciate his approach and all the actionable takeaways he offers.


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Dr. Anthony Youn – America’s Holistic Plastic Surgeon

My guest is Dr. Anthony Youn. He’s known as America’s Holistic Plastic Surgeon. However, he says, “We’ve got to deal with the whole body. That means the person, their spirit, where they add to their life. Is plastic surgery the answer or is it about something else?” He talks about ways that we can take care of our skin, things to look out for, whether it’s procedures or in skincare, things that would be good if we were in our 20s and 30s. What are certain treatments, non-surgical, that are a little more aggressive and effective in our 40s, 50s, and beyond.

He’s written books, he’s been on TV, and he is on a mission to get people to look at their why. If you are going to consider plastic surgery and you’re going to go for it, I joke about it, I think about it, as the years go on, I always say my neck falls, I’ll be looking. If you are making that serious decision, what are the questions you should be asking? Who should you be going to? What should their qualifications be? The safest way to approach something that is serious. We had a great conversation and I hope you enjoy the show.

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You had your own surgery going from high school to college on your jaw. Were you having functional things or was that a cosmetic, or combination?

It was a combination. It was probably some type of genetic abnormality where my jaw grew to these huge proportions. I would have trouble eating certain types of food, but mainly it was the cosmetic aspect where it was so big and it made me feel deformed. I had surgery between my high school and college years to set my job back. That functionally helped me a lot but with my self-esteem and my self-image, it was life-changing.

That’s the thing about skin. If you don’t have skin issues, we don’t realize that we face the world with our skin and our face and how hard that can be for so many people. You had another incident. Is it the baby and the raccoon where you had this situation that you then decided, “This is the field I’m going to go into?” Because coming from your family, the expectation was, “You will be a doctor.” It was maybe on you to figure out what kind of doctor.

I grew up in a traditional Korean-American household, where my parents immigrated from Korea. My dad was a physician and he lifted his whole family out of poverty. It was like the classic American dream story. What he knew was that doctor equals success. If I was going to be successful, I had to be a doctor because anything else, I could lose my job and I could end up on the street and be homeless. There’s either doctor or there’s homeless and there’s nothing in between to their understanding.

The issue that I had and the reason why I became a plastic surgeon was that I knew I wanted to work with my hands. I’ve always been interested in art and things like that. I also didn’t have the personality to be the type of surgeon my dad wanted me to be, transplant surgeon, neurosurgeon, cardiac surgeon. That’s not my personality.

What kind of personality does that take?

It takes a type of personality where you can go in and it can be a life and death situation, and you thrive on that. You have to make split-second decisions of whether you do this or you do that in a person’s life hangs in the balance. There are people who love being in that position, who thrive on that stress and the excitement. I hated it when I was in my training because it was that fear that I always had of like, “What if I screw this up? I do not want somebody to suffer because I may have made the wrong decision.”

There was one day that I was a medical student and there was a little baby that was left in a bassinet. The parents went to the bar leaving the baby in a bassinet with their pet raccoon. When they came back to their barn where they lived after the bar, the raccoon was in the bassinet eating the baby’s face. When that baby was brought to the hospital and then into the pediatric ICU, that’s when I saw the baby because I was on my pediatric rotation as a medical student. To see what the plastic surgeons were talking about doing and stuff like that to help reconstruct this baby’s face, that got me started on my love of plastic and reconstructive surgery.

That’s an important point to start with. Ultimately, plastic surgery was for, “If you were born with some kind of deformity, it was an opportunity to fix that.” Now, we’ve turned it into something different. It’s interesting, as a female, you can see where you go. It’s tempting certain things, but also the story that never ends.

There’s a dermatologist here in Los Angeles, Harold Lancer. You might know Harold. He started from burn victims. That’s how he started. He’s using lasers to help burns. The better business is the cosmetic aspect of things, which is the way it is. He said to me when I was young, “Don’t start messing with your face, because then you’ll have to chase it.”

Plastic surgeons, traditionally, go through a lot of reconstructive surgery training. I didn’t know that I was going to specialize in cosmetic plastic surgery until later on in my career. That’s usually how it goes. The problem is that what’s happened with plastic surgery and cosmetic surgery specifically is that there are so many doctors now, who the importance of them is not becoming a physician, treating people, and looking at reconstruction. Using these reconstructive techniques and the knowledge to create these cosmetic procedures.

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They just want to go and make money making boobs bigger, doing facelifts, and doing lipo. You get doctors from all different walks, whether they’re started out as an ER doctor, a GYN, a family doctor, and they go into plastic surgery or cosmetic surgery as a way to make money. It has affected our specialty in terrible ways.

Is there a way to verify like, “This person has had the proper training in this field?”

Definitely. The simplest thing is to make sure that they’re certified by The American Board of Plastic Surgery, that is the board that certifies all of us. If you’re an ER doctor who is dabbling in plastic surgery, then you won’t be certified by that board. Another thing that you can do though, because some people try to get around and say, “I’m certified by this board or that board,” is you want to make sure that your doctor has hospital privileges to perform the operation that you are looking for. Because hospitals will vet the doctors for you.

If I apply to a hospital and say, “I want to do cardiac catheterizations,” they’re not going to let me do that because I have absolutely no training in it. If I opened up an OR in my office and I convinced you, Gabby, to let me do a cardiac catheterization on you, there is no law stopping me from doing that. That’s how people get around it. So American Board of Plastic Surgery and making sure that the doctor has hospital privileges to perform that surgery.

Because a lot of the plastic surgeons do it in-office because it is more discreet. People want to be discreet with these kinds of things.

Real plastic surgery societies require all board-certified plastic surgeons to have hospital privileges to do that. Otherwise, you cannot be a member of the society. The main reason why is that things can happen in plastic surgery. You can die from having a breast augmentation, from having lipo or a tummy tuck. If you have a complication, you want to make sure your doctor can bring it to a hospital where they can take care of you. If the doctor doesn’t have hospital privileges to perform that, you’re on your own. You go to the ER and you hope that they’re going to find a good doctor for you.

Now you’re at this place where your label is America’s Holistic Plastic Surgeon. There are a couple of things before I want to dive down into a lot of the things that you talked about. I encourage people to go to your Instagram especially. You give away a lot of content on your YouTube. You do the right thing. You’re a dutiful son and you say, “I’m going to be a doctor,” then you arrive and now you’re doing plastic surgery. I’ve met other plastic surgeons that were having either difficult times in their life or mental illness, and then they were coming to me and being like, “Give me this and that.” For you, guys, if there’s a conscientiousness to it, that part of the practice is probably a dance.

There is a famous quote from a famous Beverly Hills plastic surgeon, Dr. Robert Rey, who said, “We’re psychiatrists with knives.” There is truth to that. I turned down about 1 out of every 5 or 6 patients who come to see me and quite often they’ve got unrealistic expectations. There’s a belief that anywhere from 1% to 10% of plastic surgery patients have some type of body dysmorphia. As a plastic surgeon, it is my job and my duty to try to figure that out and help patients with it. Sometimes it doesn’t work. Sometimes people fool us. Sometimes we operate on people that maybe we shouldn’t and I’ve had that blow up in my face in the past, but therein lies the issue. If you’re doing these cosmetic procedures, you want to be choosy on who you do it on and what you do.

Someone’s may be going through a divorce, whatever age they are, and they come in and they go, “I want to get tuned up and freshened up.” Does that seem agreeable?

In the end, it comes down to two things. Number one, it’s up to the patient. The patient’s opinion is what means the most. Number two, when I’m doing these procedures, I don’t say yes to everything because if I don’t feel myself that by doing this procedure I’m going to help somebody look better, then I don’t want to do that procedure. That ends up being my opinion to an extent. For example, if I’m going to make somebody’s lips bigger just because they want me to but they’re going to look worse because it looks so unnatural, then the answer is I don’t do it. There are those two things.

The problem that we have now in plastic surgery is that all of that gets muddied up. There are so many spouses who are trying to push their partners to undergo cosmetic procedures. I see that all the time. I had a patient that came in to see me for a mommy makeover and she says, “I want my tummy done but my husband wants my breasts bigger.” I said, “What do you want?” She goes, “I want my tummy done.” I said, “That’s all that matters here because it’s your body.” She said, “Let me talk about breast augmentation because I promised him I would.” It’s easy to say that but unfortunately, people are impacted by the influence of others and sometimes it’s not so healthy.

It is tricky. This is my selfish question. I’m a big advocate of going to bed early, not drinking alcohol, and all the boring stuff. I’ve had friends get liposuction. They got it from the thighs and the butt, and then it showed up later on the arms. The story is you’re born with a certain amount of fat cells that are either smaller or larger. Do they come back and get redistributed? Is that something that we see?

Many years ago, there was a small study that appeared to show that. If you get lipo on your thighs, it comes back on your arms or another body part. Since then, there have been larger studies that have refuted this. Every year, liposuction is the number 1 or 2 most popular plastic surgery. I have probably lipoed upwards of 10,000 people in my career and in all of those, I have never had a patient come back and say, “Look at how huge my forearms are now after you lipoed my thighs.” Thank God because what a problem that would be. The difference is that if you gain weight, you may not gain weight in that problem area that we took down, but maybe you gain it somewhere else. If your weight is stable, there should be no reason why the fat should automatically come back in some weird location. I’ve never seen that, honestly.

All of us are interested in our skin. What I appreciate and identify is that you’ve also created a business around saying, “If you want to try to have these good practices, I also create products that I believe in, I believe in the ingredients, and I know what’s in them.” I put that at the table right at the top because sometimes it’s like, “He has products.” Yeah, you do, so there you go. I have three daughters. None of them have had skin issues. With teenagers, some of it is hormones and some of it is food allergies. In a lot of cases, if you’ve got a kid with persistent acne, which is tough to deal with, what are the causes?

You’re right when you say hormones. There’s a reason why teenagers get acne as they go through puberty. It’s that combined with the external factors, too. I’ve got two teenage kids and it’s something that we are dealing with with them. The first thing you have to consider is that diet and overall inflammation can make a huge impact on things like acne. Acne is an inflammatory process.

What do many teenagers do? They get their car for the first time, they get their driver’s license, and now they’re driving to McDonald’s with their friends. They’re going out getting pizza and they’re getting ice cream. All of these things will increase inflammation by sugar spikes. These are things you’ve covered in your podcast before. That can contribute to it, but we also have to realize that there is a hormonal component to this. There are things with your skin changing that using things like salicylic acid washes, a beta hydroxy acid that can help clean out your pores. Those are things that can help.

With somebody who’s a teenager dealing with acne, it is multifactorial. It’s not just because they’re eating at McDonald’s that they have acne. It’s not just because of hormones that they have it. It is probably a combination of so many factors and focusing on all of them technically is probably the best way to go. The big thing with teenagers is if you’ve got a teenager that’s getting cystic acne where the acne is starting to get severe, you want to take that teenager to a dermatologist because if that acne gets out of control can leave permanent scars. That can be something that people deal with throughout the rest of their lives. It’s best to take care of it earlier rather than later.

Worst case scenario, and I don’t recommend this for the majority of people, but Accutane can take care of it for everybody. If it comes down to being on Accutane or having horrible cystic acne that creates scarring for the rest of your life, then talk with your dermatologist and get to the bottom of it. These are things you want to tackle earlier rather than later.

It’s painful as well. Let’s say someone’s reading this later and they’re having some residual scarring. Is it laser treatment? What are some of the most effective ways? Because there are some great things to get that evened out.

GRS Yuon | Dr. Anthony Youn

Dr. Anthony Youn – At some point, you’re going to get to the end of it, and you want to look back and feel the time that you spent here was well worthwhile, and that you left the earth better with you being there than with you not being there.

There’s a number of things you can try. The problem is that none of them are going to erase the acne. All of them, you may get a 10%, 20%, 30% improvement. There are a number of different things and none of them have necessarily been proven to be better than the other. You can try a fractional laser or a series of fractional laser treatments. Those will each have a downtime of a few days to maybe even up to a week. Doing a series of moderate depth chemical peels. We do something called a Controlled Depth Peel by Beverly Hills dermatologist Dr. Zein Obagi that’s great. Even microneedling, it’s an inexpensive treatment. You do a series of those for mild acne and that can improve it as well.

I love that because as a parent, that’s something that people can feel helpless. It’s a tough one. We’ll get into some of the rituals and the routines of cleansers and others. We’ve moved into this heavy makeup, social media culture, everything perfect culture, the lips, the fillers, Botox for 20-year-olds, and this stuff is happening early. To do some treatments in your 20s that won’t have long term, you won’t regret it in 25 or 30 years. It might freshen you up and tune you up. What are you liking for men and women in their 20s or 30s?

For the 20s, it’s about prevention. Hopefully your skin looks still youthful and you bounce back quickly. The first thing is to always get on a good skincare routine. You want to cleanse every morning, you want to apply good antioxidant serum, preferably a vitamin C. If you combine it with vitamin E, even better. Super important, you want to apply sunscreen after that.

Technically, if that’s how you do in the morning, that is fine. You don’t have to do anything more than that. In the evening, it’s important, you got to cleanse your skin. Even though you’re in your 20s, you go out and party, you leave your makeup on, you wake up the next morning, you still feel great and you look darn good, but it is not good for your skin. You got to get rid of the days’ worth of grime, dirt, and pollution off that skin.

Ideally, you want to apply either a gentle retinoid. The term for that is retinol. The vast majority of major skincare companies have good retinol in their skincare lines. Or you can try a peptide-based cream, which can be more mild if you got sensitive skin. If you do have a little bit of residual type of acne, then a good retinoid can be good for your skin. Depending on your climate and how your skin is, a moisturizer can be great to help to lock in the moisture in your skin. Technically, that’s all you have to do.

If you’re talking about in-office treatments, say, “I take care of my skin. I use these products. What can I do in the office that can be helpful?” Intense pulse light or IPL treatments are great because those will target the aid spots, those sunspots. If you’re out with your friends and you get these spots, it can help target that. There’s no downtime to that. There are no negative aspects of it. I am not a fan of prophylactic Botox. I know some doctors are. It makes them a lot of money.

I had a friend of mine who is a successful makeup artist and he said he had a twin brother who did nothing. He goes, “Through time, all his wrinkles moved to the inside part of his eye after ten years of Botox.”

Botox will weaken muscles temporarily and those muscles can atrophy or they can get smaller. The most common area to inject it is we call the glabella, which are the frown lines between your eyebrows. What some people do is they can weaken the muscles that create those lines, but then they recruit muscles from elsewhere to try to create that. I find that it’s usually caused by the actual person staring themselves in the mirror trying to create those lines.

The negative though if you’re in your 20s of doing Botox is that you can get antibodies to Botox eventually. You can get resistance to Botox. Why use it now when you’re in your 20s and you don’t need it because you have no wrinkles, and then find that when you’re in your 40s it doesn’t work anymore because you’ve been doing it for too long?

The crazy thing, Gabby, is I get patients who are in their 20s who say, “When I turn 40, I’m going to be old. I won’t care how I look.” I’m like, “What?” People in their 40s go, “When I’m 60, I’m going to be old. I won’t care how I look.” I get patients that are in their 60s and they’ll say, “When I’m 80, I won’t care.” You always care. If you care, you’re always going to care.

That’s part of it. More of a minimal but a good practice. You talk about that if you don’t have anything heavy-duty going on with your skin, toner is optional. I love this idea that your skin has a microbiome itself and that can be disruptive to that. People are familiar now, you have your gut health, microbiome, try to get that all dialed in, but your skin has its own as well.

Back in the 80s and 90s, it was all about astringents. You apply this alcohol-based astringent to your face and it feels cool like you got rubbing alcohol on your face. It feels squeaky clean and then it feels dry. The crazy thing is you get oily because now your skin says, “It’s so dry. Let’s amp up the oil amount.” The first thing you want to do is avoid any type of toner with alcohol in it because it is not good for your skin. There are a lot of non-alcohol-based toners now that help to restore the pH of your skin. If you’re using a real harsh cleanser, then using something like that can be okay. You want to avoid something like skin alcohol-based toners where you’re going to strip that microbiome, kill that bacteria off. That bacteria can be beneficial for your skin.

How do you feel about oils over creams? For example, you discuss like, “Don’t use the cream for your body and for your face because it can clog the pores.” A lot of times I will use certain oils. I’m older but my skin is not as sensitive, but I sometimes like that over a cream. How do you feel about using oil on your face?

That’s fine. A lot of people are using it. A lot of people are getting back to the natural. They want to avoid a lot of the additives and preservatives that are found in skincare products. Where oils can be helpful is in people who have oily skin, believe it or not. A lot of people start with an oil-based cleanser because it tends to get rid of makeup for some people well. If you’ve got any people who are reading and they’ve got real oily skin, even acne-prone skin, it doesn’t seem to make sense. Using an oil-based cleanser followed by a gentle cleanser can help with the skin.

When I was a teenager in the early 80s, we had a brutal product, an apricot facial scrub with huge granules. You will get in there and scrub because you think, “I’m going to avoid blemishes.” People have to be careful with chunky scrubs on their faces because you can damage the skin.

As I get older, I get so many messages from people who have mature skin and they’re applying so many products on. They’ve got adult acne and they go, “What product do I need to apply onto my skin to make it better? Or do I need to scrub my skin more to make it better?” The solution a lot of times is to do the opposite, dial everything back, get back to those basics. In general, we are applying too many products onto our skin. Just stay with that cleanser, stay with the vitamin C serum in the morning, the light sunscreen, at night you want to wash, you want to use a retinoid, and then if you want to play moisturizer if you need it, go ahead. For a lot of people, stripping the skincare back can improve their skin.

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Also drinking more water. That’s the funny thing. We’re so busy doing this. Take a look at how’s your stress and are you hydrated? Start there. You can see it on your skin. I did an experiment with microdermabrasion in my late 20s. I used to call it get sandblasted because I was always sweaty and sunblocky. It’s been many years and that’s worked out good.

That’s a treatment where essentially you blast tiny little crystals at your skin. They were using baking soda after a while with that because it was natural, but it used to be aluminum crystals. People were concerned about the safety of that so they switched to baking soda. Essentially, it’s a light exfoliation of the skin. That’s always good because when you exfoliate your skin, you get rid of that upper layer of dead skin cells. It causes your skin to turn over more quickly and to get more youthful by doing that. Regular exfoliation, whether you’re using a gentle scrub like that, not with a big, crazy, thick granules, or a lot of chemical exfoliants that you can get easily over the counter in the drugstore can help with the skin and smoothing it out.

These treatments are across the board for men and for women. Skin is skin. Men have thicker skin. They have a bonus, if they shave, they’re all always exfoliating a little bit. If you’re in your 30s and maybe 40s, what treatments are more appropriate? Maybe they’re a little more rigorous if you’re going to go and say, “I need to stay on top of this.”

If we’re looking at skincare, it’d be doing the same thing we talked about before, but definitely adding the retinol then. If you want to take another step, add a peptide on top of the retinol if you want to be active and aggressive with the skincare. If you’re looking at treatments, no question, the IPL is something that I would recommend.

If you want to take the next step after that, something super easy and natural is microneedling. A lot of people think about that as the little needle rollers. That’s how it started. Now we use actual automated microneedling devices in the office where we make these tiny little puncture wounds into the skin creating trauma. We take your blood, we spin it down, remove the platelets, which are chock full of growth factors. That is called PRP, platelet-rich plasma. Apply that to the surface of your skin. That platelet-rich plasma, those growth factors will then seep into those tiny little holes that are created by the microneedling device and help to rejuvenate your skin from the inside out. This is a classic case of regenerative medicine using your body’s own regenerative properties to help rejuvenate itself.

I’ve tried that. You look a little beat up when you go home that day, maybe a little bit the next day, everyone’s different, but it’s good. They say the results on that takes a little bit of time.

The good thing about that over laser treatments is that these devices are not that expensive for doctors to buy. You may do a laser treatment. These lasers cost hundreds of thousands of dollars for physicians to purchase, so that cost ends up getting passed off on to you. If you are a savvy consumer and you say, “I’m saving my money to get these treatments. What are good bangs for my buck?” Then microneedling is good because those microneedling devices are not that expensive for us to buy. Chemical peels are another option, a relatively inexpensive option to help rejuvenate the skin without spending thousands of dollars.

There are always these conversations around like, “When is the right time if someone’s going to get a facelift?” Because you’ll hear even, “Is it earlier, or is it in your 50s before all your collagen starts to go before?” You do talk about some things that are a little more rigorous. Even the microneedling, isn’t there something you can do with it? Are you talking about fractional lasers and some radiofrequency? Maybe we go to skin that’s a little older and say, “We’re not at the facelift place but we’re starting to notice stuff.”

This is where there are some minimally invasive treatments that can definitely help. For example, we talked about microneedling, but there’s also microneedling with radiofrequency and the name is Morpheus. This is a procedure where you make those tiny little pokes with the device but when it makes a poke, it releases a type of energy to create heat in the deeper skin. Not only do you get the benefit of that trauma from the actual poke causing the collagen to renature and get tighter, but you create heat into the deeper skin, which can cause the skin to tighten as well.

This is a bit more expensive because now you’re using a device that can be fairly expensive to purchase. You do look at potentially a couple of days of downtime, but the risks are fairly low. It’s usually well-tolerated. Usually, you need a topical numbing cream to help with that and that will be the next step from there. The problem is after that, there isn’t a good option between that which is still noninvasive to surgery, to doing an actual facelift. There have been things that we have tried like laser lipo and things like that under the surface of the skin to try to get tightening of sagging skin, but you get to a point where you start wasting your money doing a lot of these things. If they’re not going to give you the result you want, then that’s when you look at surgery.

You also like ultherapy.

Ultherapy is a noninvasive treatment that if you’re looking at completely noninvasive, it’s probably the best thing we have out there for skin tightening. That being said, it’s still not great. If you look on RealSelf.com, the satisfaction rate is not anywhere near 90%, so you got to consider it’s a quite painful procedure. It uses ultrasound energy to heat the deep skin, so it bypasses the surface skin. It uses ultrasound to heat the deep skin to try to get the skin to contract.

The problem with this treatment is you can’t numb the area because if you put numbing on the surface of the skin, it only numbs the surface but the heat isn’t in the surface, it’s deep down so it can be quite painful. What I found with it is the results vary. There are some people who seem to get a good result and other people who go through the whole painful process and get little out of it.

Think about if you saw yourself in twenty years, you think how great you looked right now, it’s this reminder of constantly trying to appreciate wherever we are. Cellulite, some of it is genetic, lifestyle, and that’s an inflammatory signal. Does anything work on cellulite?

The answer is yes. The issue of cellulite is over 90% of women have it and only 10% of men, so it’s not fair. If you retain fluid, if you’ve got a lot of inflammation, if you’re eating a lot of salty, fried, fast food type stuff, then your cellulite’s definitely going to be worse because you are going to retain that fluid and stuff. There are a lot of treatments that can temporarily improve cellulite, anything from the old-fashioned Endermologie. We’ve got one called body effects. These are all temporary solutions.

GRS Yuon | Dr. Anthony Youn

Dr. Anthony Youn – Life is a journey and there are certain things that you can do with your family that you can enjoy.

They all work in similar ways. You massage the surface of the skin aggressively and you create heat into the deeper skin to try to get those fibrous bands to create the dimpling to stretch out. There are a few things out there now that are interesting treatments but they’re not a panacea. They’re not going to be the cure for it. There’s an injection now called CuO, it was FDA-approved, where you can inject into those fibers bands to release those bands.

That’s what scares me. Doesn’t that scare you? Tell me about this one.

It contains something called a collagenase, where it breaks down the collagen in those fibers bands to release them. It definitely works. The problem with it is it takes three treatments. You space in about a month apart. The same product that then disrupts those collagen bands also causes the tiny little veins to leak out blood. You get terrible bruising afterwards.

This is not something that you start doing in the spring that you want to look good for summer because that bruising can last quite a while, but it definitely works. If you’ve got some deep dimples of cellulite that you want to improve, this is a great option. Do it in the fall or the winter when you’re not showing these areas off. There are some other types of treatments that are so-so. One is called cellfina, which is surgical but it’s like a little blade that goes on to the surface of the skin that cuts those bands. There’s a laser that does something similar, too.

It’s like, “I took that tooth out.” In a way, it’s like we cut those bands, but what are the bands for, and what happens after?

The bands don’t serve any true purpose. There’s no science to show that that would cause a problem but at the same time if you have bad health, then that cellulite is going to continue to come back and it’s going to continue to be potentially an issue. Because once again, you’re getting that ups and downs of retaining fluid and that inflammation. Ideally, yes, doing all the things that you talked about on the podcast with eating a clean diet, exercising regularly, even getting regular massages, those types of things can help. Dry brushing, some people find that that can minorly help with their cellulite, too.

We all dry brush with a hope and a wish like, “Towards the lymphatic system…” I do quite a bit of heat and ice. When I do icing more often, the appearance of my cellulite improves. I’m not exactly sure why. They say maybe there’s a hormone regulator in there but also, I almost feel like the skin reacts to the ice.

You get vasoconstriction, no question. It’s the same thing when you put cold cucumbers over your eyes and the swelling comes down and your eyes look a little bit better. Unfortunately, it is temporary but it helps for a while. Some people even put coffee grounds on their areas of cellulite because of caffeine. There are caffeine-containing creams that you can buy that can temporarily improve the appearance of cellulite.

You talked about putting on sunblock. The thing that’s scary about sunblock for a lot of us is if you absorb a lot of it. You talk about one that the molecule is a little bit thicker so your body doesn’t absorb it, but it’s some protection.

You know all about this because you’ve dealt with this all your life. There are a couple of things, you’ve got to look at it. There are chemical sunscreens, and there are physical sunblocks. Chemical sunscreens are certain chemicals that are absorbed into your skin and via a chemical process, they can help protect your skin from getting burned from the UVA/UVB. Ideally, you want to get broad-spectrum over SPF 30. Physical sunblocks or zinc oxide and titanium dioxide are meant to stay on the surface of your skin and block the rays from getting in there. The easiest way to remember is those old lifeguards back in the ‘80s, who had the white paste on their noses. That’s a physical sunblock.

For children, physical sunblocks are definitely the way to go because there’s no sign that that should impact their hormones or anything like that that’s not absorbed into the bloodstream. The problem with physical sunblocks is that they can leave a whitish hue behind. Your kids aren’t going to care, but you might care if you’re wearing that especially if you have darker skin. They micronized these which can help reduce it but you can still have them. What’s the solution? What I usually recommend is that if you’re going to go out to the beach, then use a good physical sunblock. If you’ve got a little white hue, who cares you’re at the beach.

If you’ve got darker skin, then you can look for a chemical sun sunscreen, look for Avobenzone. The ones you want to avoid are oxybenzone and octinoxate. Those are the two that are believed to be hormone disruptors. They do get absorbed into your bloodstream and as bad, they are known to affect the coral reefs as well. There are many beaches now in Hawaii, out in Australia, where they do not allow you to wear those types of sunscreens.

My favorite is when you see the aerosol can and they’re spraying it on the kid and the kids breathing it in. We don’t realize it. It’s so convenient.

It’s so easy but if you’re doing that a simple tip is sprayed into your hand and you apply it onto your child. If you’ve got it, that’s much better. You don’t want them breathing it. We don’t know what those effects could be in their developing lungs.

I want to move into your practice of internal things because you talk a lot about collagen, vitamin A, C, D, things like that. Out of curiosity, what are some of your favorite procedures to perform on patients if you are going to do surgery?

I do a complete range of cosmetic surgeries so I do a lot of facelifts, I do a lot of fat injections. I do a lot of breast enhancement, breast lifts so it’s pretty much the whole spectrum. What I don’t do are nose jobs. I never liked doing those. It’s not my thing.

What do you mean? Do you not like working with the small space in the nose?

If you would pick one surgery that has the highest risk of your patient murdering you, it is a male rhinoplasty patient. Rhinoplasty, the nose for some reason, has the highest incidence of BDD. Patients who have body dysmorphia where they look in the mirror and they see something different than what everybody else sees. It’s a psychiatric condition Those people who come in for those jobs have a much higher chance of having BDD than other surgeries that they may come in for.

If you’re going to get murdered by your patient, as a plastic surgeon, it’s most likely going to be a guy who you did a nose job on because you combine BDD with for some reason being a guy and that gets dangerous. I know plastic surgeons who specialize in those jobs who have loaded guns in their desks at their offices. This is not an exaggeration, because people can get upset when they’re not happy with their results. I never enjoyed the surgery. It stressed me out a little bit because I’ve seen so many people with botched nose jobs that are hard to fix. Early on in my career, I did it for about ten years. I did nose jobs. I did a nice job. Every single one, I hated doing it.

Is it like when you uncover the moment, the unveiling?

My patients are happy but there was always that stress in me that I’m going to get this great result and they’re going to be unhappy and what am I going to do. I stopped doing them, but there are doctors who love the challenge. I’m okay without the challenge.

There’s a variety of kinds of facelifts right. There’s a lower half. Can you maybe explain because when people think about this, they don’t always know what’s available to them?

The term facelift is a bad term because when you think of facelift, you think of the whole face but as plastic surgeons, we divide the face into thirds. There’s the forehead and the eyebrows, which is the upper face. For that, you lift that with a brow lift or a forehead lift. There’s the mid-face, which essentially are your cheeks so there are mid-facelifts. There’s a lower face which is everything mid-cheek down including the upper neck. That’s technically what facelifts treat. Some people say, “I want a full facelift.” A full facelift still is a lower face and an upper neck lift. That’s what it treats. It doesn’t do a whole lot for the cheeks. It definitely does do anything for the forehead or the eyebrows.

It seems interesting though, that someone would come in and get one of them.

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No, because our face does not age proportionately in everybody so I get patients who come in and their forehead or their brows are in a great position. They have a little extra skin. They don’t have bags under their eyes, but they’ve got big jowls. We see that all the time or the opposite. They may have a nice sharp jawline, but their eyebrows are low and they feel that they look grumpy. It is tailoring it. There are some people who have aged in all three areas but it’s common that one area seems to have aged worse than others. Usually, the part that ages the worst is the lower face and the upper neck.

Do you think it’s enhanced by being on the phone and being in that shortened position? Do you think that that’s accelerated everybody, pushing down and being in that position?

It could be a little bit but that’s a bit of a PR type of thing of, “Look, it’s tech neck.” They call it tech neck and it’s a way to get articles out there and have a plastic surgeon have your name out there. The blue light emitting from our devices also can be aging as well as that can impact your circadian rhythms. Is there something to tech neck? Maybe a little bit. There’s probably more to blue light and a lot of the other negative impacts that we have by being on our devices so much.

Let’s say I would write a general prescription with a window of 8 to 10 years. When you’d say to someone, “You’re doing all the right things, you’re taking care of yourself, you’re doing what you can be in charge of, here’s what a perfect scenario would look like,” as far as age coming to you for something a facelift. You hear all the stories of, “Don’t do it too late. Don’t do it too early,” and all these things.

It’s really straightforward. I do about a facelift a week. This is a popular surgery but I tell my patients at the time to do a face should be straightforward. When you hate the appearance of your jowls, your lower face, and your neck so much that you’re going to spend upwards of $12,000 to $15,000, you’re going to go under the knife for 3 to 4 hours. You’re going to get permanent scarring around your ears that might or might not get thick. You’re going to spend the night overnight in a hospital, where I do the surgery. You have drains overnight, and you have the potential risk of complications but you hate your neck and your jawline so much that that sounds exciting to you, then that might be the right time to do a facelift.

Once you hit about 55, almost everybody, unless you’re maybe Jennifer Lopez, anybody over 55 is physically usually probably a reasonable candidate for a facelift, the vast majority of people. It comes down to whether it’s the right thing for you. That’s putting that into account. When you hate that so much that all those things are fine because you want to take care of this, then it may be the right time.

What about breast augmentation? If someone has never had one, are you doing any of the fat transfer? I know they don’t guarantee it, maybe go up a cup size and things like that, are there ways for people to do it without putting an implant in that you see some success with?

That’s interesting because there have been studies that looked at fat transfer to the breasts. Physically it is a safe operation. You take fat from your tummy or your thighs, you purify the fat injected into the breast and the risk of a complication of that is fairly low, about 30% to 50% of that fat will stay. Usually, you may gain at the most maybe a cup size, maybe half a cup. I talk a lot about breast implant illness. Why don’t I use fat then?

The thing we’re learning is that fat is chock full of stem cells. This is something we’ve learned about in the last several years. We know that 1 in 9 women will get breast cancer in their lifetime. Our breast glandular tissue is cancer-prone, unfortunately. What happens if you take a relatively cancer-prone organ and you infuse it with stem cells? If you’ve got, let’s say, a little cluster of atypical cells that are growing there, let’s say, you’re 40 years old, and those aren’t going to grow into a tumor until you turn 120, you may never see that.

What if you got a bunch of stem cells by fat that was injected all around that, could that impact you could that tumor now show up in 10 or 15 years? We don’t have studies to show that that’s going to be safe and that that doesn’t happen. For that reason, I’m not a huge fan of injecting fat as a cosmetic procedure. I have used it in reconstructive types of things at times. That’s something I talk to all my patients about. A lot of doctors are not talking to their patients about it because they go, “It’s a safe operation. My complication rates are low.” Is that patient going to have breast cancer twenty years from now? Do we know that?

That’s the conversation even when you talk about a growth hormone and things it’s that multiplier if you will so that’s interesting. If women do have implants and they’re not having any weird encapsulated or anything like that, how often do they need to change them out?

What we do know is it’s much easier to switch them out before they break rather than after. We know that they do get more and more brittle as time goes on and now the implants typically have a ten-year warranty so they should last you a minimum of ten years. Any doctor that’s telling you that you have to switch it out every ten years is wrong. They can last you much longer. What I usually tell my patients is every 15 to 20 years or so consider switching them out prophylactically when it’s a good time for you.

That operation, if the breasts have healed well if the pocket and the scar tissue are nice, that operation can take literally a half hour with almost no recovery time. If that implant breaks and the pocket shrinks down, now we’ve got to reopen the pocket completely. You have a higher risk of complications and a longer operation. It’s best to do it easier if you can, but you don’t have to do it every ten years, that’s way excessive.

How do you know if you go through the nipple or underneath the breast and in the old days, they went through the armpits? What is your preference? Is it case by case for body and shape?

I typically go under the breast now because there are studies showing that if you make the incision around the areola or in the armpit, there’s a higher risk of complications. These are signs that have come out in the last few years or so. More and more people are abandoning those options because of that. For me, I used to offer all three approaches around the areola armpit or underneath the breast. Now I tell my patients in the beginning, “This is why I recommend going under the breast. A lower complication rate makes it worth it.”

Are butt implants here to stay?

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Butt implants are the only option for people who want a big dairyaire and they don’t have fat to use. BBL, which is fat injections into the buttocks is much more popular but they’re also potentially dangerous. Several years ago, there was a survey that found that 1 in 3,000 patients undergoing BBL butt fat injections died from the operation. There have been further studies now after some of these techniques have been refined and that death rate is now down to about 1 in 15,000, which still isn’t great but as much better than 1 in 3,000. The big key for that is to make sure if you’re going to have it done, you want to see somebody who is an expert at that surgery. You don’t want somebody dabbling in that operation to do it because you could die within seconds of having this operation. It is that serious.

You hear stories of people putting unusual things in those injections. It’s like, “Holy cow.” Let’s move over because this is also one of the things that I appreciate about what you talk about. I love the title America’s Holistic Plastic Surgeon. You talk about supplements like protein, calcium, iron, and vitamin C. You said, “We’ve looked at 70 different types of diets and we’re low in these things. Maybe you could go through the supplements that you feel are also supportive.” Ultimately, we try to always piecemeal our whole organism apart. If you’re taking things that support the organism, your skin’s going to look better. I know that we focus on the skin, but if your mitochondria, your cells, your microbiome, everything’s working better, your skin’s going to look better.

It’s all those things that you’ve talked about in the podcast. It’s things like eating the rainbow of fruits and vegetables. We know that antioxidants are found in the actual pigment of these fruits and vegetables so eating a wide variety of different colors can be beneficial for your skin. You mentioned the microbiome. There are studies now that are looking and finding that the health of your skin can be profoundly impacted by the health of your microbiome. I do encourage all my patients to take a probiotic every day and ideally to eat fermented foods at least a couple of times a week to try to also get those good beneficial bacteria through your food too.

You mentioned supplements, but the first thing you always want to do is to eat a good balanced anti-inflammatory healthy diet because you can’t supplement your way out of a bad diet essentially. Putting that aside because I know you cover diets so well in your podcast. What supplements that I recommend if you’re looking at purely anti-aging and how do you get your skin looking? It’s taking a good multivitamin and there’s a lot of different ones out there.

As you’re getting older and you’re starting to notice your hair thinning, there are certain supplements that are made for your hair, skin, and nails. Focusing on one of those, there’s one called Neutrafol which is specifically for your hair and we have one for the hair, skin, and nails that support your collagen. If you want to simplify, taking a good multivitamin is super important. Taking a probiotic every day to help support the microbiome. I do recommend taking good Omega-3 fatty acids like fish oil. I recommend that too for its anti-inflammatory effects. It helps reduce inflammation of the skin.

I also recommend supplemental collagen, hydrolyzed collagen. This is super popular right now. It’s funny because traditional physicians say, “It doesn’t work. It doesn’t do anything. You take it, your stomach acids break it down and it’s not going to make your college any better.” There are a number of studies albeit not huge studies, smaller studies that do appear to show that it helps.

I can’t tell you how many people I hear from on social media that said, “I tried taking a collagen supplement and my joints felt better. My hair got thicker. My nails stopped cracking so much.” There are so many of these types of stories. It’s the same thing you hear when people go off gluten. Not everybody is gluten sensitive, but there are so many people that you say, “Go 2 or 3 weeks off of gluten and see how you feel.” There are so many people who see these changes that are profound for some of them.

I love how you talk about the polyphenols in green tea. I’m reminding people you can drink bone broth as well if you want. Misnomers because we women will go for it right. We’re tired. Something comes on the screen, “Buy it now. You’ll feel better. You’ll look twenty years younger.” We’ve all been hooked on that one. What can’t you absorb through your skin? What would be better to take orally, that would be better to support that you can’t absorb it?

The number one thing is collagen. There are people who will put collagen creams on their skin and the collagen molecule is too big, it’s not going to absorb through your skin. Collagen is something best taken through a hydrolyzed collagen supplement. Ideally, one that is high quality because there are ones out there that aren’t so good. Be choosy with that.

Other than that, there are some great creams that you can put like hyaluronic acid. Those are great. Your skin is a barrier, it’s meant to be a barrier. Anything that truly gets through your skin when you apply it is usually some type of actual medication. That’s why Retin-A works so well for people because it will get through your skin. That’s why those chemical sunscreens are regulated by the FDA. As a mom and pop, you can’t start your own sunscreen and sell it. They do regulate that type of stuff.

We think we can have the alcohol and we can fix it with cream. We’re trying to remind people that there are certainly a ton of treatments that do give you a boost. People could come and see you and get a boost. Your wife is also a doctor. Is this right?

She’s a pediatrician.

How do you guys do that? How do you have children, practice, and pump out tons of content and see patients? Do you have things that you do or practices in place for balance?

I try to. For me, what’s going on now is that I’m over my fifth decade now, which is crazy when I think about it. I’m not a young doctor anymore. A lot of it is that my hobby has become creating this type of content to help people. What happened was I used to do a lot of national TV. I’ve been on Rachael Ray 25 times and stuff that and the pandemic hit. My office closed for 2.5 months and I had friends of mine who are on the frontlines of dealing with COVID in the ER, in the OR and stuff like that. Being a plastic surgeon, there wasn’t much that I could do. I started thinking about what I can do to contribute to helping people. I started creating stuff that was entertaining and funny at times, and informative. People reacted to it. It was crazy.

Now I’ve got an audience of almost 9 million that are following me on these social media channels. A lot of it that I hear is, “When I was scared, and I was at home by myself and quarantined, you can help keep me company.” I can treat 40 people in my office in a day or I can help millions a day via social media, podcasts, YouTube, and all that type of thing. It has been a blessing to be able to affect people’s lives in the way that I have.

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I would have never thought that it would get to where it is now. I do feel a bit of responsibility as a physician that I want to make sure the information I put is out there. For me, it’s all about positivity and there’s so much negativity in our society right now. There’s so much division and it’s trying to put positivity out there because it’s a tough time for all of us.

You and your wife both work in the medical areas and you know a lot. How do you not nag your children? I even had a thing with one of my daughters. She wanted to eat fast food. I had finished reading an article about them using vegetable oil and canola oil and all the waste. How could they monetize the waste, how some of this stuff started and how we moved away from beef tallow and all these things. I realize sometimes you model and you let your kids make their own mistakes in a certain way as long as it doesn’t have a forever long-lasting impact. How do you guys navigate that because you do know a lot?

There’s a balance there. I would not tell you that I’m perfect. I try to encourage people to improve their diet and their overall health but we’re by no means perfect ourselves. When I go to LA, which is quite often, we cannot not stop at an In-N-Out. We only do it once now.

That’s every East Coaster.

That’s living life. Yes, if your diet consists mainly of that stuff, you’re going to probably die younger than you would. You’re going to have more wrinkles, bad skin, and stuff but you also have to look at it as life as a journey and there are certain things that you can do with your family that you can enjoy now. Our kids eat a pretty darn clean diet but they know now because it’s so clean that those things that they want like my son we always get small ice cream if we give my students always a small size.

One summer he said, “Daddy, we’ve been quarantined. This is our first trip out anywhere. I want to get a medium-sized ice cream cone.” I said, “Daniel, you have that medium-sized ice cream cone.” He finished that and he had such a stomachache afterward. He’s like, “I felt so terrible.” Even now his friends want to go get pizza and his favorite things are Poke Balls. He’s a teenager. He’s a sophomore in high school in the Midwest in Detroit and he’s convinced his friends to go get pokey bowls with him instead of going to get hot dogs, burgers, fried chicken, and stuff like that.

That’s the thing. It’s the modeling and the faith that your kids are going to be able to feel the difference themselves. We do have to build our own reasons why we do or don’t do things but it’s tricky. I’ve always been curious about people like you, with your wife, your family, how you have these big lives and how you manage it. From your parents, from your Korean culture, the fermented foods, is there anything that you have seen that you’ve woven into your practice that shows up from something you’ve learned from your culture with your folks?

There’s a reason why I’ve done a lot of what I have done, and here I am. It would be nice to live a life where you go to work a 9:00 to 5:00, you come home, and you don’t worry about work anymore, but I’m constantly striving to improve myself and to improve where I’m at. Part of it is growing up as a skinny Asian kid in the middle of white America feeling different and not having any girls interested in me until after I graduated college pretty much.

I’ve got a little chip on my shoulder that I always feel I have to prove myself and make my parents proud of me. That’s always been something with me. It’s never been something like I’m angry or I’m bitter or anything but I always feel driven to try to improve who I am and to try to impact people as much as I can. I feel like so much has been given to me that I have a responsibility to somehow give that back as well.

Being in the fitness space, both my husband and I, as you get older you think, “Do I look the part?” Even if the practice is authentic, you have self-destructive thoughts or whatever because you are youthful but that you’re in the business of youth, smooth, and all these things. Does it ever play tricks with yourself that you’re like, “I’m getting older?”

It definitely does. If you ask my wife, she said, “You’re in the middle of almost a lifelong midlife crisis.” It used to be that I was a young surgeon and now people say, “You look young for your age.” We all know as we get older that that’s not a compliment because essentially, they’re saying you’re old. I’ve got all these followers on TikTok. That’s crazy. I got all these teenagers that follow me. On TikTok, when they comment, you can prevent certain comments from showing up. The comment that I have prevented from showing up on my page is Boomer.

I’m not a boomer. I’m Gen X, like yourself. Boomer is somebody who’s much older than me but these kids don’t know. They look at me as a Boomer but at the same time, I refuse to accept that. It’s tough getting older and I sympathize with my patients. Just because you look young for your age still means that you’re still getting older. It is something that gets hard to deal with sometimes. What can you do? Life is a journey. At some point, you’re going to get to the end of it, and you want to look back and feel the time that you spent here was well worthwhile, and that you left the earth better with you being there than with you not being there.

That’s right. It’s the whole thing of, you’re contributing. That’s better than any perfect skin but you have to keep focusing. When you have those down moments, you can say to somebody, “I was dealing with wrestling with that side of my ego, my fears, or whatever,” and keep moving. I have one last question, maybe the most constructive way to approach fillers and maybe ones that where you would have a little more wiggle room with.

This is interesting, because, back in 2004, I was in Beverly Hills with a top-named plastic surgeon out there, a guy named Dr. Richard Ellenbogen. Together we wrote a paper that was seminal in the plastic surgery literature called the Volumetric or Three-Dimensional Facelift and it was this idea that aging, their face ages, not in two dimensions where we sag but we also lose volume. Part of that was adding volume back in. I heard from a lot of class surgeons afterward, “This is such a great idea.” At the time, there weren’t many fillers so we would inject fat and that worked well.

Now, the injectable fillers come along, and you take what essentially is a good idea by adding volume to rejuvenate the face and you do what class surgeons do. You overdo it. If a little is good, then more is better, right? Wrong. More could be a lot worse and now you’ve got this epidemic of pillow faces that you’re seeing all over the country. What it is, is that injecting filler can be a powerful instrument that can create great changes if you do it subtly and conservatively. People know about injecting your lips. Our lips get thinner as we age. That’s one part of it, but it’s the cheeks that get people.

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The cheeks lose volume as we get older. To use a little bit of filler in the cheese can be great and if you do it subtly one syringe may be on each side, maybe a syringe and a half, it can be rejuvenative. When you’re injecting three or four syringes on each side, you’re deforming the face, you’re changing how it looks, and once again you’re breaking that rule. If you’re not helping make somebody look better, you’re making them look different. I wouldn’t be afraid of fillers, but make sure you do it, conservatively and you can always do a small amount and come back for more versus signing on to do a ton all at once.

What if the lip doesn’t get that weird hard look? What filler or product does that?

It’s two things. It’s the product and it’s the placement. Traditionally, we inject filler into what’s called the vermilion border and that’s where you have the color line of the upper and lower lip. Some people like that. You have a celebrity like Lady Gaga. I love Lady Gaga. It’s not confirmed that she’s had fillers. She may have admitted at some point but her lips are nice and outlined. To me, it looks like she’s had filler, which looks great.

There are some other people where it’s so outlined that it looks stiff and unnatural that if you overdo it, they can do that. Plus, there are certain fillers that aren’t made for the lips. If you inject it there, it’s going to cause that. How do you do it? How you do it right is you inject less amounts of it and you inject a softer filler. There are fillers specifically made for the lips like Restylane Kysse, Restylane Silk, JUVÉDERM VOLBELLA. These are soft fillers that aren’t as apt to create that thick, stiff look.

The duck look. If someone was curious about how you guys have created products that you go, “These are some of our hero products for you at your brand.” Which ones would you say, “We’re getting this one right.” Even if it’s ingestible or whatever it is, if you can share that.

I have a skincare line called Youn Beauty and it’s made with natural and organic ingredients but we’ve got a Retinol Moisturizer. I mentioned how retinoids are the number one anti-aging cream. You use that every night. We have a CE Antioxidant Serum so this is a serum that you apply in the morning after your cleanse but before you apply any type of sunscreen. It combines vitamin C and vitamin D, which we do know when you combine the two you get a synergistic effect. That’s antioxidants. These are the two top sellers and my two favorites. If you’re looking for a good skincare routine, adding those to cleansing and sunscreen, a lot of times that’s all that you need.

You want people to avoid bar soap.

No bar soap on your face. You do want to use a facial cleanser appropriate for your skin. A simple rule is if you’ve got dry skin, use a gentle cleanser, one that’s not too aggressive. If you’ve got oily skin, use a foaming cleanser, that’s going to make your skin feel cleaner. After you cleanse your skin, give it two minutes and if your skin feels tight then it’s too aggressive.

I appreciate the work that you’re doing. Maybe you can remind everybody, every place that they can find you now because you have been busy.

I have a podcast called The Holistic Plastic Surgery Show. You can find wherever you find podcasts. I’ve got a YouTube channel. I’m on TikTok and Instagram. If you’ll look for me, you’ll be able to find it easily.

Thank you so much, Doc.

Thank you so much, Gabby.

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About Dr. Anthony Youn

GRS Yuon | Dr. Anthony YounDr. Anthony Youn is a Board Certified Plastic Surgeon, Award-Winning Author, and Anti-Aging Expert. As a successful plastic surgeon for twenty years who has performed tens of thousands of successful cosmetic procedures, He has come to realize that the key to true beauty lies in a holistic approach to youth.  Surgery should be a last resort.